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Re: Is Suicide a Sin?Quote:
I believe in a Loving Creator. For those who believe in a vengeful God or those who believe in nothing other than themselves - then suicide can be seen as a sin against that God or the ultimate failure of the self. |
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Re: Is Suicide a Sin?While it may not be right for all who is to say that is not right for some? Could you imagine being in such terrible pain to think that could be your only way out? Then be told if you did it you would be a sinner for all of your afterlife?
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Re: Is Suicide a Sin?I used to think it was a cop-out, and still tell the survivor ( after calming them down) that their own life is worth more, than to harm it. The cause of the suicide is usually someone or something else, so they would be more constructive killing a crooked solicitor instead.
Many are too distraught to know what they are truly doing, and often do think the act is the best for their family. It's sad that so many are young. Today's society, and it's criminal laws ( by criminal legal groups) often contribute to the cause. The single parent families also have a lower 'respect' training, and less discipline and support, so more kids grow up without the right guidance, to understand the right options to situations in life. The young, if of a correct attitude, deserve saving. ( if the suicide is by some scumbag trying to escape the embarrassment of being caught for some act, they deserve oblivion, so let them suicide!) Execution is a must, for the right persons. |
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Re: Is Suicide a Sin?I disagree even with those trying to avoid embarrassment. If the act that they are trying to escape is that bad then they should suffer their punishment, not be able to run from it. I say that with caution realising that it sounds intolerant but there are some acts that I do believe deserve for the universe to act out its needs on the person who committed it.
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Re: Is Suicide a Sin?you're not 'intolerant', but there are many who are against this wasteful ending to a life. The universe will always even out the balance, on ALL of us. The earth regularly runs its continental plates across each other, crushing us back into oblivion. Our last generation is today's oil (only $100 a barrel!).
So one day, you and I will be polluting the earth as we drift out some tailpipe as exhaust emission, but we'll be 'blended' with the person who committed suicide. We are all part of the whole. Have you spoken to a young girl (after her attempted suicide), who (won't tell you) has possibly been molested by a close relative, and threatened by the person with the 'destruction of her family unit' if the secret gets out; or one who is shown no love from the family/parents she loves... until she feels there is nothing left to live for? I agree that her thinking will be erratic, and she should really kill the perpetrator (in case 1) but how can she deal with something that she doesn't tell anyone (because she feels she can't). Not everyone has the ability ( or more importantly, the support) to be able to deal rationally, especially in a world gone mad. Do you have kids? Do you love them? Are you one? Do you get total support from them? |
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Re: Is Suicide a Sin?I have kids, I am a child of two living parents, I was raped and refused support my own mother when I needed it most. I attempted to take my life three times before the option to do so was taken away from me and I received finally the (medical) help that I needed.
Suicide is not easy. It is far from a coward's way out, but it certainly is an act of desperation and hopelessness. |
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Re: Is Suicide a Sin?The single parent families also have a lower 'respect' training, and less discipline and support, so more kids grow up without the right guidance, to understand the right options to situations in life.
The young, if of a correct attitude, deserve saving. What are you talking about?? Where do you get your statistics that single parent family have lower respect training, kids grow up without guidance etc... ??? That is awfully bias and ignorant. I am a single parent and I take offence at this casual diminishing of the dedication of single parents. Worst, "the young, if of a correct attitude, deserves saving" - Who are you to say who deserves saving or not??? I shudder! |
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There are many explanations for these words and one owes themselves the right to really understand for themselves why they believe what they do about these words. It can change your entire outlook on many things of a spiritual nature to do so and consequently, it can help you answer you own question about suicide. Thanks, James |
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Re: Is Suicide a Sin?Just this morning a loved one told me that his brother-in-law killed himself yesterday. He was extremely despondent as he had been seriously injured; and despite his severe limitation had been denied Social Security Disability. Several things, including the death of one close to him occurred yesterday. It apparently pushed him over the edge. In this moment of desperation, when everything seemed dark and hopeless he rashly took his own life.
When I heard of this I immediately began to cry as it reopened old wounds. My own wife took her life on Christmas Eve years ago. She had been in a serious auto accident and suffered severe head injuries. As a result, she had blinding headaches that kept her bedridden for several days each month. She would lie in complete darkness. Although she received medical treatment, the doctors weren't able to bring relief. On top of this, I later learned from information gathered by a psychiatrist who examined her for the government prior to a disability hearing that she suffered from hearing voices and seeing things that were not reality. As a whore for the government, he kept this information to himself and we were told when her disability was denied that she was experiencing "minimal psychological impairment" and that her headaches were subjective rather than objective. The truth was that her head injuries suffered in the accident had led to mental illness which was not revealed until after she committed suicide. I was left to raise our five year old son without his mother. Had the whore who the government hired to examine her done what every doctor should do and revealed her illness to us, we would have sought psychiatric help for her. Instead he minimized her illness so as to keep her from getting disability and essentially kept her from information which might have led us to the treatment which could have saved her life. Only after her death did I insist on seeing the results of the exams which led the doctor to assess her as having minimal impairment. So minimal that she later took her own life! I was so devastated by her death that I considered suicide myself, but I had a son to raise and Christian friends who pulled us through. Later I obtained a degree in Religion and naturally questioned whether suicide is a Sin. My conclusion is that it is a Sin, but not necessarily one that condemns one to Hell. Please consider the spirit of the person who feels helpless and hopeless. What about the pain they are experiencing? Who am I to say that anyone with the degree of pain that my own wife or my friend was suffering should go to Hell for being unable to stand against the torment? Was the person who accepted Christ as their Saviour the same as the one who took their own life? Finally, did Christ, while He was on the Cross, not look at his murderers and say, "Father forgive them, they know not what they do." If He could forgive His killers has He not room in His heart to forgive those who take their own lives during anguish and despair and permit them into Heaven? Losing my wife was the most painful thing I have ever experienced. Had I had the opportunity to speak with her before she committed that fatal act and known of her condition, I would have reasoned with her and encouraged her that we would seek help for her pain. I would have left no rock unturned in seeking assistance for her. I would have asked her to seriously consider the pain that her act of suicide would cause those left behind. I would have prayed for her healing. She committed suicide because she felt she could not bear the pain any longer. Also she was possibly hearing voices and seeing things which were not reality. She probably was terrified and thought she was going crazy. I believe Christ has forgiven her and I can as well. I find it harder to forgive the government's whore doctor who prostituted himself for a $200 examination fee to spit out a report that deprived her both of disability and the medical information needed to compel us to seek further assistance. But Christ forgives him as well, if he realizes that his bogus medical report deprived me of my wife and my son of his mother, and if he is indeed repentant. To those who are considering suicide, please get help. Please don't leave your loved ones to suffer the way my family has suffered. There is help available and people do care about you. Life is worth living. Tomorrow is a new day and around the next corner is a new beginning. Don't give up. Never give in. God loves you and so do many others. God bless you all. Merry Christmas. |
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